Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.18 16:57:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Hi
We may need to make more changes to get it established as the aspirational ship that we want it to be, but I still think a lot of the problems here are related to cost. If the Nestor was 500mil I doubt this discussion would be as common. We'll see how the new drops coming soon affect price and if we still have this problem we can look at making more changes.
Sell price of Vindi: 935M
Sell price of Mach: 780M
Sell Price of Bhaal: 795M
Sell Price of Nightmare: 734M
Sell Price of Rattler: 405M (because it is a piece of junk now that drones are garbage)
So let me get this straight.
You plan on jamming so many chips into the game that you force the price down to 500M.
Well, given its 182M material costs, that will be a lot of chips.
Because as it has quite correctly been pointed out, SoE LP holders sure won't be building them when you factor in the 150M and 600,000 LP required in high sec.
And when you flood the market with the Nestor chip, how many of the frigate and cruiser class chips are created as well, if the same ratios are applied as the other pirate BS/cruiser/frig ships?
BTW, you might want to examine why 4 of the 5 pirate BS's are way way more than 500M.
How about demand? Because they are good at what they are designed to do?
The way I see this, you have a few options, some better than others.
1. Improve the ship's stats so demand increases and coupled with a "normal" distribution of chips, the price is settled by the market (not you), and is probably in the 700-800 M range. This will probably still end up as a huge nerf to the high sec community as they will also lead to a large drop in the Stratios price when their chips come online.
2. Ruin the other pirate BS's with a "rebalance", so the demand drops for them, their prices crash to Rattlesnake levels, and you flood the market with Nestor chips, with the current useless stats.
3. Lower the LP costs and ISK costs in the LP stores for the ship, to manipulate the Nestor sell price to your desired 500M range, and maintain the "normal" drop rate for the chips compared to BPC's for the other pirate ships. That way the chip drops and LP stores are both lending to the supply of the ship.
4. Improve the ship stats, plus lower the LP/ISK requirements as per #3, and let the market forces prevail after that.
I am no libertarian, but the less intrusion by a CCP dev into dictating the price of this ship, the better.
But this is CCP I am talking about.
So I am betting you wreck the other BS stats, and also flood the market with SoE ship chips with some artificially high drop rate of the chips, effectively the LP for BPC conversion rates for those 2 ships.
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